attach detach db

Is it possible detaching one db coping under/ different names /master and lof
files and reattaching db again to cause login problems later. if yes why?
Not sure I understand the question but the answer is most likely in one of
these:
http://vyaskn.tripod.com/moving_sql_server.htm Moving DBs
http://www.databasejournal.com/featu...le.php/3379901 Moving
system DB's
http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=314546 Moving DB's between Servers
http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=224071 Moving SQL Server Databases
to a New Location with Detach/Attach
http://support.microsoft.com/?id=221465 Using WITH MOVE in a
Restore
http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=246133 How To Transfer Logins and
Passwords Between SQL Servers
http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=298897 Mapping Logins & SIDs after a
Restore
http://www.dbmaint.com/SyncSqlLogins.asp Utility to map logins to
users
http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=168001 User Logon and/or Permission
Errors After Restoring Dump
http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=240872 How to Resolve Permission
Issues When a Database Is Moved Between SQL Servers
http://www.sqlservercentral.com/scri...p?scriptid=599
Restoring a .mdf
Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
"Eli Milkova" <EliMilkova@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Is it possible detaching one db coping under/ different names /master and
> lof
> files and reattaching db again to cause login problems later. if yes why?
>
|||Hi,
If you are attaching the database with different name in same server, you
will never get any Login issue. If you are attaching into
a different server then you have syncronize the Logins and users using the
system procedure SP_CHANGE_USERS_LOGIN (see Books online)
Thanks
Hari
SQL Server MVP
"Eli Milkova" <EliMilkova@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
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> Is it possible detaching one db coping under/ different names /master and
> lof
> files and reattaching db again to cause login problems later. if yes why?
>
|||Hi Hary,
thanks for your reply. Let me try to explain the situation I am in. I had to
make copy for training purposes of a production db. I detached prod db and
copied mdf and ldf in the same data directory but with names test.mdf and
test.ldf. Then I attached our prod db and new test db. During attaching I had
to choose dbowner (domain admin). It seemed to me that i saved time using
this teqniche. But later users reported that they couldnt log in prod and
test db via the application (its in citrix). After short phone talk with
vendors they explained that detaching and attaching caused dbo alias
deleting. They have app login that use dbo alias. I ran sp_addalias 'app,
'dbo' and everithing looks fine with prod db. But its impossible to use test
db. Users that are in sys admin group dont have problem but ordinary users
that connect to applications db via app user cannot login at all. I wonder
whats the problem? all ordinary users are stored in users table in prod db
and have encrypted passwords. app user password is encrypted and stored in
different db.
i will be dismissed : )
"Hari Prasad" wrote:

> Hi,
> If you are attaching the database with different name in same server, you
> will never get any Login issue. If you are attaching into
> a different server then you have syncronize the Logins and users using the
> system procedure SP_CHANGE_USERS_LOGIN (see Books online)
> Thanks
> Hari
> SQL Server MVP
>
> "Eli Milkova" <EliMilkova@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8BD9FBF7-6420-49C7-8B3F-25E0774BA43B@.microsoft.com...
>
>
|||Hi Hary,
thanks for your reply. Let me try to explain the situation I am in. I had to
make copy for training purposes of a production db. I detached prod db and
copied mdf and ldf in the same data directory but with names test.mdf and
test.ldf. Then I attached our prod db and new test db. During attaching I had
to choose dbowner (domain admin). It seemed to me that i saved time using
this teqniche. But later users reported that they couldnt log in prod and
test db via the application (its in citrix). After short phone talk with
vendors they explained that detaching and attaching caused dbo alias
deleting. They have app login that use dbo alias. I ran sp_addalias 'app,
'dbo' and everithing looks fine with prod db. But its impossible to use test
db. Users that are in sys admin group dont have problem but ordinary users
that connect to applications db via app user cannot login at all. I wonder
whats the problem? all ordinary users are stored in users table in prod db
and have encrypted passwords. app user password is encrypted and stored in
different db.
i will be dismissed : )
"Andrew J. Kelly" wrote:

> Not sure I understand the question but the answer is most likely in one of
> these:
>
> http://vyaskn.tripod.com/moving_sql_server.htm Moving DBs
> http://www.databasejournal.com/featu...le.php/3379901 Moving
> system DB's
> http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=314546 Moving DB's between Servers
> http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=224071 Moving SQL Server Databases
> to a New Location with Detach/Attach
> http://support.microsoft.com/?id=221465 Using WITH MOVE in a
> Restore
> http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=246133 How To Transfer Logins and
> Passwords Between SQL Servers
> http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=298897 Mapping Logins & SIDs after a
> Restore
> http://www.dbmaint.com/SyncSqlLogins.asp Utility to map logins to
> users
> http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=168001 User Logon and/or Permission
> Errors After Restoring Dump
> http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=240872 How to Resolve Permission
> Issues When a Database Is Moved Between SQL Servers
> http://www.sqlservercentral.com/scri...p?scriptid=599
> Restoring a .mdf
> --
> Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
>
> "Eli Milkova" <EliMilkova@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:8BD9FBF7-6420-49C7-8B3F-25E0774BA43B@.microsoft.com...
>
>
|||Then you should look at the links I posted. In particular this first one
should be most helpful:
http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=298897 Mapping Logins & SIDs after a
Restore
http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=168001 User Logon and/or Permission
Errors After Restoring Dump
http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=240872 How to Resolve Permission
Issues When a Database Is Moved Between SQL Servers
Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
"Eli Milkova" <EliMilkova@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:62CB085D-5980-4776-8A35-DEAC178F2AEB@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Hi Hary,
> thanks for your reply. Let me try to explain the situation I am in. I had
> to
> make copy for training purposes of a production db. I detached prod db and
> copied mdf and ldf in the same data directory but with names test.mdf and
> test.ldf. Then I attached our prod db and new test db. During attaching I
> had
> to choose dbowner (domain admin). It seemed to me that i saved time using
> this teqniche. But later users reported that they couldnt log in prod and
> test db via the application (its in citrix). After short phone talk with
> vendors they explained that detaching and attaching caused dbo alias
> deleting. They have app login that use dbo alias. I ran sp_addalias 'app,
> 'dbo' and everithing looks fine with prod db. But its impossible to use
> test
> db. Users that are in sys admin group dont have problem but ordinary users
> that connect to applications db via app user cannot login at all. I wonder
> whats the problem? all ordinary users are stored in users table in prod db
> and have encrypted passwords. app user password is encrypted and stored in
> different db.
> i will be dismissed : )
>
> "Andrew J. Kelly" wrote:
|||Thanx : ) I hope this will help. Just curios if EE could have the same login
problems. May be will be better to upgrade to EE
"Andrew J. Kelly" wrote:

> Then you should look at the links I posted. In particular this first one
> should be most helpful:
> http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=298897 Mapping Logins & SIDs after a
> Restore
> http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=168001 User Logon and/or Permission
> Errors After Restoring Dump
> http://www.support.microsoft.com/?id=240872 How to Resolve Permission
> Issues When a Database Is Moved Between SQL Servers
> --
> Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
>
> "Eli Milkova" <EliMilkova@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
> news:62CB085D-5980-4776-8A35-DEAC178F2AEB@.microsoft.com...
>
>
|||It would be the same for any edition.
Andrew J. Kelly SQL MVP
"Eli Milkova" <EliMilkova@.discussions.microsoft.com> wrote in message
news:B7FD797D-F1DB-41E4-B6D4-0BDA27B27153@.microsoft.com...[vbcol=seagreen]
> Thanx : ) I hope this will help. Just curios if EE could have the same
> login
> problems. May be will be better to upgrade to EE
> "Andrew J. Kelly" wrote: